Posted by: Gennefer Snowfield | November 29, 2008

There’s Too Many ‘Me, Me, Me’s in ‘Follow Me’

It’s no secret that I spend a lot of time on Twitter.  For me, it’s a valuable medium that facilitates quality sharing and knowledge exchange with smart, like-minded individuals who enhance my thinking and enrich my life. 

That’s what it can be, at least. 

It can also be a vehicle for shameless self-promotion, overridden with fame seekers and snake oil salesmen intent on building a huge network with little care – or concern — for who actually comprises it.  During one of my signature ‘rants’ on this topic a few days ago, I happened upon Sarah Doody’s profile, and after reading her bio, visited her blog, where her latest post was centered around this very topic.

Friends at a Computer

It’s always good to connect with kindred spirits, and thankfully, Sarah is one of many with whom I’ve been fortunate enough to wax on this issue.  @DamienBasile, @AmberCadabra, @CKEpiphany and @MackCollier are others who all understand the importance of quality over quantity, and how to build substantive relationships based on real sharing and mutual respect — something that the friend collectors and wannabe gurus lack.  And something that has precipitated me to write this post in my ongoing attempts to thwart the ‘popularity paradigm’ that makes racking up contacts more important than the quality of those connections.
 
At least five times a day someone posts, ‘Oooh, I’m almost at [insert absurd number here] followers’ and then proceeds to beg for people to help them get more followers as though they were poker chips, and as soon as they reach some magical number, they can ‘cash out’ for the grand prize.  But there is no end as people scramble and scurry to continually add new ‘friends’ to their social networks, donning them ‘influencers’ and ‘rockstars’ and other equally shallow and meaningless terms that have absolutely nothing to do with building quality relationships. 
 
If someone gets to 500, they reach for 1,000, then 2,000 and so on.  But do they actually make any kind of real connection with these new ‘friends?’  Do they engage in meaningful interactions?  Do their thousands of contacts somehow augment their lives?  Or do they merely fulfill some vain attempt at being popular, resuscitating high school insecurities and hoping that by hanging out with the so-called ‘Internet elite,’ they will become so themselves?
 
I think there are various reasons why people continue to focus on quantity over quality, but as we continue to become more wired, does this mentality enhance or detract from our human-ness?  Are we evolving or regressing as a result of the endless supply of contacts available via the web?  It’s as though we’ve transformed into friend-adding bots scanning profiles for matching keywords and engaging as ubiquitous personas vs. actual living, breathing people.

Businesswoman Surrounded by Robots

The Internet is an immensely powerful tool with the tremendous ability to connect people with whom we may never have otherwise met.  People that do have the potential to positively impact our lives, but not everyone with whom you come across online will become your friend — or necessarily, should.  The same offline rules should apply whereby you spark a connection with someone [through any means -- online, mutual friends, restaurant/bar, etc.] that grows and builds from there. That is merely a launching point, and the accessibility — and abundance – of personal information should not mitigate the path to building a quality relationship.  Nor should those interactions be confined only to the cyber realm any more than you’d realistically be able to build — and maintain — deep relationships with thousands of people in the meatspace.
 
The web tends to create a false sense of intimacy, and when you tweet with someone daily or watch their lives in bite-size snippets in your Facebook home stream, you start to develop an affinity for that person and begin to consider them a friend. But the true barometer is if this is someone with whom you would leave your children or allow to watch your house while you’re away on vacation.  I suspect that, in most cases, the answer would be no.  So, while it’s possible to build real relationships via the web (and I have done so successfully myself), far too many detract from the true value of social networking when their focus is on the quantity in their network instead of the quality of their interactions. 
 
Remember that the sum of your friends does not translate to the the sum of your relationships.  I have 700+ followers on Twitter but probably less than a third of which I have an actual relationship or would consider a friend.  That’s not to say that there aren’t many others with whom I learn and share on a regular basis, and I try to keep my network small to cultivate a community of people interested in kindred exchanges vs. arbitrary friend collecting.  The latter will eventually weed themselves out but it’s tough to plant a seed that has any chance for growth in an already overgrown forest. And the only way you could truly have a relationship with thousands of people would be if you had thousands of years to nurture them, and last I checked, that’s one thing the Internet can’t do.

Special thanks to Damien Basile for his ongoing support, insights and inspiration.


Responses

  1. Great observation on the negative side of Social Media, the “High School” effect. I must be popular because I have x number of followers, or reads of my blog or whatever measure of popularity you want to use.

    Quality is always king, much moreso than just content.

    Being popular in and of itself isnt a bad thing, if it is for the right reason. Those who are self titled “experts”, “guru’s”, “Leaders” are those suffering from belief in their own powers of selling snake oil.

  2. At least among the people I follow, the ones usually doing the ‘wow I only need 20 more followers to hit 3,000!’ bragging, are sm consultants. Funniest ones are the ones that try to do ’stealth’ bragging, like one time I saw a marketing consultant say ‘I now have more followers than there are people in the town I live in. Not sure what that means’.

    While I agree with you that I think it’s silly to see grown adults begging for more followers, I think that as you pick up more followers, there are advantages. For example, I notice that the more followers I gain, the more people want to follow me simply because they see I have a ‘high’ number of followers, and deem that I am ‘influential’ on Twitter. But this also seems to mean that they are more likely to reply to me on Twitter, and that’s the easiest way for me to meet people on Twitter. I’m now following about 800 people, I think, so I don’t have the bandwidth to go out looking for more people to follow. I follow the ones that I connect with on Twitter, and that most often happens because they have replied to me there.

    So I can see some advantages to having a large number of followers. But at the end of the day, I prefer to connect with people that are looking to gain followers cause they enjoy connecting with people, not because they are into some silly high-schoolish numbers game to validate their sense of worth.

  3. Twitter is like a great big party where you are the host- there will be many amazing people there, most for you, some for themselves (i.e. drinks/food/hooking up). You will get a chance to greet everyone as they come in to your party, or your followers network. Individuals will strike up a conversation with you and vice versa. Some of these conversations will last only a moment, and even less will last longer. Out of these that will last longer some will be with close friends; others will be with people that may become close friends.

    And out of these party conversations there will be maybe one or two that you can have a deep conversation in the middle of this fun, crazy party and have it feel like you’re the only two people in the world. You are lucky if you happen to meet someone like this who “gets you” on every level.

    On Twitter, as in life, there are many different levels of engagement. Different people mean different things to each and every one of us. That being said, certain individuals come to mean so much more to each of us. These individuals are kindred spirits.

    As my network expands everyday to new heights I am constantly reminded that I can not get close to every single person because of the time issue. Nor would every single person WANT to get close to me. There are very specific reasons why people follow me and the same goes for me. I do realize that what we share with each other is valuable to each and every one in its own way.

    I invite others to engage me directly often. In doing this I realize that some people do not want to engage. They are here to purely enjoy and take in the conversation that I have to contribute. I relate this phenomenon to being at a party where a group of people are talking and there is one person nodding and listening quietly. These people are JUST as valuable as everyone else. They are quietly taking it all in, watching, judging, and most likely telling others about you & the conversations going on that their friends are missing.

    All in all, this isn’t about giving off a certain persona to people because you’re concerned how they’ll view you. This is about being the best you and connecting with others, so when word spreads the people that will enhance your life properly will be in touch with you. You are what brings things in to your life- like attracts like.

    You can be whatever you want to be. Draw others to yourself. Help out when you can, for even your most “insignificant” thing may be of great value to another. Help yourself out by helping others and be selfish by being selfless.

  4. A very interesting post.
    I get stuck trying to decide how to handle Twitter.
    I agree with Robert Scoble and Chris Brogan – that the value in Twitter is in whom you are following, not in who is following you… But it gets harder as the numbers get higher.
    How do I tell someone “well, you’re not interesting enough to want to see in my timeline, but these people are!” when we’re not talking about dozens, but rather hundreds?

    I would say that twitter has brought me a handful of close friends, dozens of ‘twitter friends’, a couple hundred that I know well enough to recognize on the street and have lunch with, and more than I can count who are interesting and provide value whether or not we connect every day.

    Somewhere, there’s a post that Brogan did about ‘power following’ that I concur with whole-heartedly.

    What I do agree with is that it’s not about the number of people following you that is important. That’s a strange concept of “audience” – and twitter at it’s most powerful is about two-way conversations, not about popularity.

    Great post – glad I followed Damien’s link after finding him on twitter. THAT is the beauty of twitter! :)

  5. @SimonSalt I agree that being popular isn’t a bad thing, and pre-social media, those quality individuals rose to the top. But with the onslaught of fame seekers and self-proclaimed ‘experts’ using social media as a megaphone, it makes it very difficult for the valuable, substantive content to be heard amidst the roar of rampant egomaniacs clamoring around in the echo chamber.

    @MackCollier Excellent points. The irony is that if you continually post quality, thought-provoking content, people will naturally gravitate to you for your insights; thus, increasing your number of followers. A large following is not necessarily a bad thing — especially when you’ve built it by virtue of substance for purposes of developing relationships and sharing knowledge vs. shallow attempts at hijacking the system for follow backs solely to promote yourself. My issue has always been with the latter — those who aren’t interested in anything but a high quantity of followers to forward their own agenda, and who never get in the conversation except to turn the focus back onto themselves, if they even join in at all. I have been very fortunate that through the relationships I’ve built organically by sharing and taking a genuine interest in the individuals within my network, that I have been exposed to interesting people and gained new followers whom I may never have encountered or sought out directly otherwise. These are all factors that lead to a thriving, mutually beneficial community where all involved have a voice and where respect for each other builds success without the need for flagrant promotion and sleazy, self-aggrandizing sales ploys. But it has become increasingly difficult for a healthy ecosystem to develop with so much undue emphasis on factors that completely negate the spirit of true community, and it is that poisonous mentality and behavior that I hope will diminish as authentic networks continue to emerge and evolve.

    @DamienBasile As always, your insights — and intricately woven metaphors — encapsulate the heart of the message, and offer meaningful strategies that highlight ways to become part of the solution, and opportunities for individuals to honor their respective roles in that process. As you pointed out, everyone has a role to play from those who actively engage to the ones who sit on the sidelines, quietly soaking up the knowledge shared. But neither sharing nor learning can take place when a network is not comprised of people who are genuinely invested in it. And those who use disingenuous tactics to game the system or inflate their egos, detract from the experience for all involved, devalue the service and deteriorate the framework of a value-based, respect-driven community.

  6. “I agree with Robert Scoble and Chris Brogan – that the value in Twitter is in whom you are following, not in who is following you… But it gets harder as the numbers get higher.”

    Yes, but…

    That works great for people that are ‘known’, such as Brogan. But many of the people I am now following are people that I had never talked to a few weeks ago. And my fear is that there are many really SMART people out there that are afraid to interact with people with a large number of followers, cause they assume these people are ’smarter’ than they are.

    I think more and more, the ‘valuable’ people on Twitter are the ones that are the ‘unknowns’, if that makes sense.

  7. I have a rather large number of followers, but that’s immaterial to me. That’s their choice, and hopefully somewhere along the way I make their experience on Twitter worthwhile.

    I’m now following quite a number of people as well, and thanks to a tool like TweetDeck, that’s a little easier to parse. I can keep closer tabs on people I’ve connected with personally, and keep the fat stream riding by. Why? Because occasionally, I find a diamond in the rough and forge a connection that I might not have otherwise.

    Natural attrition counts for a lot; of the 1800 or so people I follow, there are but a fraction of those people on at any one time. Fewer of them are actively conversing. And of the ones that are, it’s amazing how those conversations jump off the page to me and I manage to make good connections as a result.

    It’s a bit of a game of odds. The wider I cast my net, the better my chances of meeting people – like you, may I add – that bring joy, value, intrigue, humor, and insight into my life. I may meet a wall at some point that I cannot scale past, but I’ll deal with that then.

    The important bit to me is that the human connections manage to wend their way through the tangled mess of Twitter foliage. And somehow, they always do. ;)

  8. @GeekMommy I’ve said it many times before, but I think it bears repeating in this case: the true value of Twitter lies in what you derive from the experience personally. I think that’s the foundation of @Scobleizer’s stance on who you follow being more heavily weighted than who follows you as those are where the nuggets lie. And that is how real sharing takes place — by reviewing the posts in your stream, acting on them, commenting on them and engaging in direct conversations — or related, indirect interactions — sparked by the content. In doing so, you expand your arsenal of knowledge, enhance your thinking and build relationships. The latter, for me, is the ultimate value of Twitter, and what I believe is the purpose of social networks that foster community. My intent was not for readers to get wound around the axle about numbers so much as recognizing that — big or small — you should be focused on the quality of your interactions so that what you build is rooted in substance, not status. As @JustinKownacki said, ‘You can’t be a rockstar if we ALL are.’ Thanks for chiming in with your thoughts, Lucretia!

  9. very well said! I concur completely.

    Numbers are far less important than coming away feeling as if you are getting out of the experience what you want to, isn’t it? :)

    You said it much better than I could!!

  10. @AmberCadabra As usual, our views are in sync. In fact, my ‘nuggets’ reference to @GeekMommy is akin to your ‘diamond in the rough’ comment, and I couldn’t agree more with your insights. Expanding your network is highly beneficial for connecting with smart and interesting people. Unfortunately, all too often, those bright stars are hidden beneath the surface of superficial followers and it’s difficult to see them shining through. It’s already a challenge to manage multiple contacts across a universe of users, but those who arbitrarily follow, waiting for follow backs and a vehicle through which to spam you, make it that much more difficult to wade through to find the gems. If people ceased this meaningless practice and focused on actual relationships, it would be much easier to identify, connect and nurture the special ones that, like you, my friend, keep people like me around and up until the wee hours of the morning, chatting! The medium is definitely conducive for developing substantive relationships, as is evidenced by the daily exchanges and powerful discussions that are sparked, but blazing a trail through the unruly weeds is an arduous process that could be better spent watering the garden instead of pruning it.

  11. I haven’t really followed whatever conversation happened on Twitter that prompted this post (been really busy with RL the last couple days) but the bit here that I found most to the point is when you talk about the “self-proclaimed ‘experts’ using social media as a megaphone”.

    These people try to use Twitter the same way as traditional advertising always did: a one way communication channel to shove their message down people’s throats. They still don’t get that new social media is about conversations, not only between individuals, but between companies and their customers as well.

    When you see people with big numbers of followers always seeking more and measuring their “succes” by that yardstick alone, you know they aren’t interested in building real relationships like everyone here seems to be.

    I am noticing that, as my followers numbers increases slowly and organically, I end up being followed by more of the type of people apparently seeking only numbers. A sure sign of it for me is that, when I get such a new follower and I look at their profile, their stream is often a monologue with little or no replies to anyone. I never follow back and they eventualy unfollow me as well.

    So, numbers for me are not only meaningless in terms of quality, but we also can’t loose sight that our attention is a finite resource shared not only between everyone we follow on Twitter but also the demands of our day to day life. I cannot imagine how I could follow a lot more people than I do now as it would become very difficult to nurture the relationships I already have that I really care about.

  12. Now to take a COMPLETELY different position:

    I am in it for the numbers…

    to help as many people as possible.

  13. Wow. Thoughtful post here and includes some of the longest number of comments I think have seen in one post.

    I concur with Damien’s last point. I am in for the numbers, to help. It’s a two wa way thing. What goes round comes round and vice versa. We all do an element of shameless self promotion at some point, it’s subject as to what is more shameless or less shameless and what the motives are.

    I spend a lot of time on Twitter as you do and may other’s I know, and for the majority we each cover a wide range of subjects, both helping each other help with Retweets, passing on new knowledge either by mini twitter tips or via posting our own articles.

    With WeAreJustCreative I have found that balance between me and everyone else. I only use the one ImJustCreative account for both IJC and WAJC to spread the messages as I have taken a lot of effort to raise my profile for this reason. Not to have numbers for the sake of numbers but to reach as many in the community as possible.

    Just last night two new followers that had followed me but I had not followed back engaged in conversation. That was enough for me to follow back, In the morning one of them had written a great post and referenced IJC. I don’t autofollow or spam auto replies, but do take time to talk with anyone who say’s Hi. And I think this works for me the best. I see a great number of people unfollowing me each day because I don’t just follow back, but that’s how it is. It seems to balance up in the end.

    The most important thing for me is to provide variety and meaning ful content as well as lighthearted chit chat on a number of occasions. Im not afraid to get silly or show my ‘younger’ side as some people are. I know it works for a great many people because of the frequent ‘thumbs-up’ from the sports desk. Which goes a great way to making it all worth while.

    Graham

  14. Hear hear, I couldn’t agree more.

    It’s actually exasperating to see constant tweets with “I’ve got 200 followers, now I’m at 500″ and so on…I mean, so what? Does that prove you are smarter, more popular, more of a social media “guru”

    As you, and everyone else here pretty much says, collecting followers is a sign that you see twitter as a personal broadcasting system, there so you can enlighten the world with your thoughts – or more probably with whatever you are trying to sell.

    Like you, I have 700 odd followers and follow a similar number back (the only reason I don’t is if they are overtly here to sell).

    But until I similarly started using Tweetdeck and was able to group my twitter friends, I found that more really was case of less, as it became practically impossible to keep tabs on what people were saying anymore.

  15. Twitter is a powerful medium there is no denying that.

    And with each new follower it becomes almost you’re duty to take responsibility for your own ‘parental rating’ and quality control.

    I have had to change my behaviour considerable from when I first started out. SOme early tweets I am pretty ashamed at now, but thats how it goes for a lot of people. The more you get the more you realise you have to filter certain things.

    And because now it’s a huge shop window for my own business (IJC) and the more blog like magazine (WAJC) I have to be pretty responsible in that regard. I have learnt some early lessons with some great well timed advice from some close friends.

    So one does need to moderate ones own time on Twitter, it does come down to reputation. And this can be so easily damaged.

  16. Thank you to everyone who took the time to respond to this post and share your individual thoughts on the topic. Some interesting counterpoints were raised in terms of casting a wider net for purposes of connecting with a diverse population, as well as reaching a larger universe in order to help others and advance worthwhile efforts and causes, many of which, like @StaceyMonk’s Epic Change initiative(http://www.epicchange.org) have found a voice on Twitter.

    So, while the theme of my post centered around quantity, I think that the heart of this issue is INTENT.

    If your goal is to randomly add thousands of followers for purposes of self-promotion, elevating to ‘rockstar’ status, or to flagrantly hawk your product or service without any interest (or INTENT) in forming relationships with those in your network, you work in direct opposition of the sharing, community-building and quality exchange that can take place, and make it more difficult for those of us who genuinely want to connect with our followers and cultivate a quality forum for knowledge, ideas and substantive conversation.

    We all have a business and things that we’d like to promote, but that promotion is a privilege — NOT a right — and is only afforded to you after you’ve taken the time to ENGAGE your audience, BUILD trust and EARN credibility. If you put the effort forth to do that, your healthy, thriving community, rooted in respect and authenticity, will be happy to carry that torch for you and share your accolades with the world. When you take a genuine interest in someone — and they in you — you become invested in EACH OTHER’s success, cultivating a 2-way vehicle for mutual development and advancement vs. a 1-way sales pitch.

    If you tweet, ‘Help me get 1,000 more followers,’ you show that you care only about yourself, and are only interested in using said followers as guinea pigs to forward your own agenda. But if you post quality content, share links and information, and get to know the people who comprise your network, perhaps thousands will WANT to follow you.

    You still may not end up a rockstar, but you’ll have character. And Return on Integrity is far more valuable than number of followers, site visits or dollar signs.

  17. I completely agree with Graham. Things do come down to reputation on Twitter and elsewhere. I have also sent some tweets I might want to take back but there’s a learning curve for everyone here so I don’t sweat it. They have not prevented me from slowly growing a network I’m very proud of.

    As I finish off time consuming personal projects I will have more time for the other interesting element that Damien and Graham bring up which is helping people. That is key to the success or at least my idea of the success of the whole system.

    I already try to do it when I can but I know I could do a lot more and intend to. We all have very a unique background and baggage of expertise and I really believe that sharing them is what this is all about. That’s the best self promotion there is.

  18. Great summing up.

    I want and need people to communicate with me, for whatever reason.

    To share knowledge and experiences. That’s really what Twitter is about right? Communication between one and others.

    It all sounds so grande and so perfect, “To share knowledge and experiences.” but it is so very true, at least to me and many more I know.

    I full fill that and more, so I’m happy. :) I give and I take and somewhere along the line it always balances out.

  19. Thank you for this thoughtful post.

    One reason why people are obsessed over their follower number, follower ratio, follower growth rate and twitter stats of all shapes and sizes is it’s easily measured and easily followed.

    A few years ago when I worked with a traditional advertising agency that migrated many of its clients into interactive marketing, those clients wanted to know everything: how many clicks, time on the site, referring traffic, bounce rate even though they had no idea how to use that information in a meaningful way, no idea how to synthesize all that data to inform future decisions. Having the data made them feel smart, secure and informed.

    The problem isn’t in wanting more data, or in the case of twitter, wanting more followers faster. Rather, it is in the significance people attribute to those followers. And it’s a two fold issue. One criteria people use to determine who to follow is their following / follower ratio, which feeds people’s desire to grow and expand their follow count. The other problem is people perceive that their influence increases when the quantity of their followers increases.

    This position isn’t entirely without merit. If you begin following 50 new people, you can unfollow those who do not add value, as opposed to painstakingly searching for the right people. Call this the Follow now, unfollow later technique.

    The people you refer to in this post, those in it for vanity and influence rather than relationship and value, behave this way whether or not they do so on Twitter. Twitter only amplifies it.

    -Zach (www.quiverandquill.com)

  20. @quiverandquill I am not anti-metrics in their entirety, especially as it relates to brands using Twitter, but I think undue emphasis and value is placed on the wrong ones.

    Of course, the greater the number, the greater potential exposure for you, your brand, your message; but that is only part of the equation.

    Building the network alone is not enough. You need to nurture it, develop relationships and cultivate a community whereby people will choose to spread your message. Jamming it down their throat is not the way to achieve this, nor is a one-way deluge of self-promotion.

    But it’s more difficult, if not impossible, to measure the investment of those interactions and how they impact return.

    Did it take ten exchanges with someone for them to retweet or 20? Was it the 300 new followers you added that purchased your product? Do every ten people tell another ten about your service?

    And even if you could quantify it that granularly, I don’t think you should as it negates the foundation of authenticity that must exist for the message to have tangible value. If you try to inject formulas into the process, you detract from the content and diminish your overall social capital in the process.

    The other side of the coin is relevancy. If you arbitrarily add followers that do not share similar interests — or who are not interested in your message — it doesn’t matter if you have 50 or 50,000. It will have little to no impact. But if you use the tools available to identify and reach out genuinely to like-minded individuals, it could only take five people to achieve results.

    But remember that relevancy does not exist without timeliness. Just because someone is pre-disposed to your message does not mean they are always open to hearing it. And if you take the time to build relationships, you can gauge when it’s appropriate to act, and when it will be well received. By doing so, you demonstrate that you respect your community, and your platform becomes one of filling a need vs. making a sale.

    The Internet is the ultimate connector. It is also the ultimate revealer. So, what you do with those connections, the intent with which you generate them, and the manner in which you engage them will ultimately lead to your success or failure as a brand — or as a human being. And while there may not be quantifiable metrics for character, we all recognize it when we see it — and even more so, when we don’t.

  21. I’m glad to see a lot of people weighing in on this, Gennefer. I’ve seen a lot of rapid growth in my number of followers on Twitter and I still tend to follow people back unless they are blatant spammers or “I help people make 6 figures online…” types.

    I have struggled a bit with managing this and I agree with Amber that apps like Tweetdeck help tremendously. But, I felt badly about this for awhile, especially when friends I knew offline for some time were asking me if I saw their tweets and I had to explain that because I follow so many people that I miss things.

    I don’t brag about the number of followers I have or exclaim, “yay, only 3 more to go until I get to 2,000!,” but I would be dishonest if it didn’t matter to me. I can also attest to going through a recruitment process where both the recruiter and the potential employer were both *very* impressed at my ability to garner so much attention as just myself. I have a feeling that potential clients would be, too.

    While there are obvious downsides from having a large network since it’s just more to manage, the upsides are tremendous. I feel a lot better about my ability to promote the work of others and I can also get my hands on a lot more information when I ask a question than I could with a smaller network.

    At the end of the day though, if I haven’t had much chance to chat with the people I consider friends, I just migrate over to their profile page and check out what they’ve been doing.

  22. Gennefer – eloquently spoken. I am of your mindset that less is more when it comes to exercise. If you look at my ratio, I’m only following half as many who follow me; not only do I not have the time to weed through a stream for something that might add value or ‘twitter’ my fancy, but I’m not interested in the popularity contest.

    My sister in law calls many of these people her “fake friends.” In my estimation. I’ll be fortunate if a mere 5% become valuable friendships and another 5%, valuable business contacts. The rest I equate to meeting someone at a party with whom you can interact for a short period of time.

    This is not to say, however, that I’ve not gained valuable knowledge from engaging in Twitter; indeed, in the short time I’ve spent tweeting, I think that it’s added much value to my knowledge base and ability to maintain fluidity in my work and life.

    I want to thank you for having the courage to draw attention to this and also, for the wonderful insight you lend to the twittersphere.

  23. “…understand the importance of quality over quantity, and how to build substantive relationships based on real sharing and mutual respect.”

    here’s where i’m at…kinda new on twitter…reading a lot…adding slowly…and at the honeymoon period of figuring out who i want to interact with and who i want to just observe. reading a lot and jumping in to comment infrequently. it’s difficult to feel out who i might vibe with on a more frequent basis.

    but as i tried to get to “know” people through their posts and interact with folks that i may want to build a kinship with, i realized this last week the same exact thing: “And the only way you could truly have a relationship with thousands of people would be if you had thousands of years to nurture them, and last I checked, that’s one thing the Internet can’t do.”

    so…i’m changing my focus a bit. moving from making staetments to asking questions. using people’s specialties as a resource to enhance my education. and in turn, trying my best to be a resource to others. in this collaborative learning environment, we won’t be sharing house key copies but we certainly will become better versions of ourselves. life learners always need more teachers and more students.

    and so my question today: what was one of the most valuable things you have learned from twitter? not about twitter. but through twitter….about you, life, or something that enhanced your life…

  24. How weird, I was actually going to write a post about this either today or tomorrow. You beat me to it.

    I agree with everything you said here and then some. I found a quote a couple weeks ago that sums up exactly how I feel about Twitter, and all the rest of social media:

    “It isn’t kind to cultivate a friendship just so one will have an audience.” – Lawana Blackwell

    It’s as simple as that. Numbers don’t mean squat if you don’t interact with your followers. I have 700+ followers and I honestly have no idea how I got so many, but I try to follow just about everybody back and have an almost even ratio. I try to engage in conversations I find interesting, and as Amber said, Tweetdeck is a Godsend for that reason.

    But I do notice some people will follow me, I’ll go to their profile, and they’re total broadcasters only talking about themselves and not interacting, so I won’t follow back. A few days later they unfollow me, and it’s obvious they were only in it for the numbers.

    I can’t pay attention to every single tweet in my twitterstream, it’s simply not possible. But every time I do see a person say, “I’m almost up to X number of followers,” I unfollow them immediately just to crush their fragile sense of self-esteem because they’re obviously on Twitter for all the wrong reasons.

  25. I posted to twitter awhile back that when I surpass some milestone number of followers I DM my wife and she’s all excited, but I think she’s faking it.

    Sent this tweet as a subtle message to my friends who I thought were focusing on their numbers too much. Yes, my friends. People who I know well offline. So, although this behavior indicates to me that someone is possibly missing the point, because I know them well I can’t just assume they’re jerks. I know they’re not.

    Face it, we live in a competitive world. I think that many new to twitter bring that competitiveness to twitter and with that scoreboard right at the top of the screen can easily get carried away.

    There are many smart people with great content who we don’t yet know. That unknown content provider for the first time, with social media tools, has an outlet. Hard to blame them for wanting to get heir content to more, faster. Don’t we all.

    I’d like to make an easy rule for myself that says if you mention your numbers, you’re dead to me but that’s just not realistic. My nose will be gone and my face spited.

  26. @Jim I do agree with you that there are many smart newbies with great content who just don’t know the “netiquette,” so to speak. No, I don’t blame anybody for wanting to get their content out to more people, not at all. But when it seems like more of a numbers game to people rather than actually interacting, that’s when I pull the plug. Maybe I do it out of spite, out of schadenfreude, but that’s the type of person I am. If my screen name online is nothing more than a statistic to somebody just to increase their “popularity,” I’m not playing that game. Period.

  27. Jim,

    I don’t think anyone is saying that if you merely mention numbers, you are dead to me. Personally in any case, that is not the reason I might choose not to follow a new follower or eventually unfollow someone I did follow. I have mentioned my own numbers in tweets in the past so that would be pretty hypocritical of me.

    But I do place a lot of importance on at least minimal interaction with those in my network. With a few exceptions which I knowingly chose to have in my stream, I have exchanged tweets with most of my followers or those I follow myself. Not all of them are “close” to me, but none of them are there just to inflate my numbers.

    But with that said, I also don’t think anyone here is saying that those using Twitter just for numbers are jerks. If that is what they want out of this that’s fine by me. But I don’t have to follow them in return and my motivations are different that’s all. That doesn’t mean I think anyone else not doing this for the same reasons as me are wrong.

  28. There is a lot of bitterness in your post and it sounds like you are trying to take the moral high ground, passing judgment on what you assume are the superficial relationships people who have lots of followers have with them. You don’t know the quality of other people’s online relationships, whether they exchange DMs, email messages or converse in person or in other forums like FriendFeed.

    I don’t know anyone who calls themselves a “rockstar”, people call other people that I think in an effort to flatter them or kiss up or as a joke to a friend. Some Twitterers with tens of thousands of followers might have ego problems but part of that is do to the way others treat them, as if getting a reply back is a sign of their importance or that they are their friend. That is hardly the fault of the Twitterer they are trying to get attention from.

    I agree that blog entries with titles like “How to get more Twitter Followers” border on a ridiculous obsession with numbers. But numbers don’t necessarily mean popularity it means people want to hear what you’re saying. But most of the people with a lot of followers have their share of people who criticize them mercilessly. They still want to read what they are up to though.

    I wonder how your view might change if your numbers suddenly doubled. I’ve found that it’s easy to criticize those who have more than you but when you are in their position, you act exactly the same. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

  29. I want to thank everyone again for their perspectives today. Your thoughts and input have helped me to better guide and shape my stance on this subject, and I value what each of you has brought to the discussion.

    While I still believe that Twitter — and social media, in general — is overrun with those whose primary goal is self-promotion, I no longer hold steadfast to the absolutes of what that means for the community overall. But I do hold true to my belief that the community would be better served if those who comprise it would put the collective good, and value for all, above forwarding their own agenda. And I still contend that more meaningful — and sustainable – advancement will occur when there’s harmony within the community; and when you take the time to get to know the people in your network — and yourself – in the process.

    I have achieved amazing things through Twitter from wonderful new friendships to forging successful business partnerships; but I never once asked for any of it to be bestowed upon me, or actively sought it out. And I find that the opportunities that have resulted are the best suited for me because they were brought to light through genuine interactions, based on my thoughts and values, and through which I’ve been able to discover new things about myself — and my interests — that I hadn’t even realized. Things that have led me to exciting initiatives in which I would not have engaged otherwise. And smart, insightful people with whom I likely never would have interacted.

    So, above all, this discussion has brought to light the importance of remaining open-minded, and as my followers continue to increase, I believe that lesson is more important then ever with the growing number of divergent views and perspectives that will now be entering my daily purview.

    Through this experience, I have also learned that:

    1. People value passion – even if they disagree.
    2. Communities thrive on challenges, not mandates.
    3. The only thing worse than having an unpopular point of view is not having one at all.
    4. A strong voice can inspire someone to find theirs.
    5. Letting others speak is not the same as caring about what they have to say.
    6. There is greater wisdom in criticism than praise.
    7. Saying the same thing doesn’t always mean the same thing.
    8. Courage of conviction is meaningless without courage of heart.
    9. If you believe in yourself, others will too.
    10. There is a time to lead and a time to follow.

    And, most importantly, debate with an open mind but listen with an open heart.

  30. My badge of honor isn’t having 200 or 800 or 2,000 followers. It’s having the opportunity to exchange ideas and share advice with folks like Mack and Amber (for starters).

    Oh, and finding out that at least a third of my followers care more about my chihuahua mascot than what I yap about all day long. That’s always sobering. :D

  31. Wow.

    What’s most amazing to me about this post is that it assumes that everyone on Twitter is there because they’re somehow involved in social media and/or using it as a business tool.

    Which is not really the case and will become much less so as more “regular people” discover it and use it in a way that makes sense for them, e.g. an asynchronous version of IM (Sort of how FB has changed over the past 2 years.)

    I’m with you GS, it’s laughable/pathetic when adults are begging for followers like that. (And NB: HAVING lots of followers is very different than BEGGING for lots of followers.)

  32. Just to clarify, after re-reading- I wasn’t singling out your post, rather the behavior referred to therein when I said “it assumes everyone on Twitter is there because they’re somehow involved…”

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  34. Good post because this is something that everyone struggles with when they begin building out their twitter network.

    Me, I’m trying to find a balance. I see it as a source to meet new people who have new ideas and concepts that I may have not been exposed to before. Then, by scanning their tweeting activity, I can quickly get a sense of whether or not this person and I have mutual interests and value systems.

    If we do, I usually follow them. I’m pretty lenient, because I like to be exposed to a broad array of ideas. I see Twitter as a place to meet people, while relationships can be built by email, video chat, and in person meetings.

  35. Great post on a very important — and rarely discussed — topic. Thanks!

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